We have a very simple configuration where we have multiple node in a pool for a specific TCP protocol (port 6000). In front of F5 farm we have an additionnal network device who NAT source IP, so we have only a different source port for each connection.
So when we initiate connection, all traffic are redirected to a single destination and are not correctly load balanced to all node in this pool; only in single. Altought, when a specific node is down, all traffic are correctly send to the 2nd.
In short terms we are unable to Load Balance correctly the traffic charge in all node.
We tried to use iRule with persit to none, and numerous option, but unfortunately we have no luck to let it working.
Can you drive me please on correct action to fix it, thank you
Regards
Thank you for your response. The protocol used is a no-known, developed by a company (based on tcp socket). So I’m not sur how to reply you about l7 on this traffic.
But if I understand what you mean, I don’t have to use a VS with a standard type, correct ?
Ok, basically as you already figure out, source address persistence will not work in your case.
So you need to look something in the upper layers.
If you were using HTTP for example, cookie persistence would easily fix the problem.
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Here is the list of persistence profile for 13.1.0:
If the others persistence profiles can't be used, you can collect the TCP data, and use something in the TCP payload that uniquely identifies each user, and use that for persistence with universal persistence.
Ok, I begin t understand better with theses explanations. And It could be useful to try chech information in TCP Payload, very useful. Thanks, and I will use it but not sure for this special case.
In fact, here we don't need to get this information about something, no need to keep persistence or affinity. It's for IOT project where devices connect to farm server and etablished a socket (and keep it open). If IOT become disconnected, he can reconnect to any node without reconnect previous one.
So, which settings I need to set for load balance tcp connection without any affinity, persistence, etc.. Just want redirect traffic to each nodes based on TCP connection. For example, we have 10k device connected for 3 node farm, 3333 TCP connection need to be redirect to each node.
I'm totally agree that like it's TCP socket, if a node fail then revert, all TCP socket will remain connected in other nodes in farm and only next TCP will be load balanced. We already have a plan for kill TCP socket on server UP after a node failed for equalize again.
The TCP connection will continue open until something happens.
That can be, the connection is closed, timeout, the server goes down, etc...
You can change the timeout in the TCP profile, the default is 300 seconds.
Create a new profile based on the default TCP, and change idle timeout value.
There is also the action on service down that you can configure in the pool settings.
Basically, what happens to a connection that is already open and the server is marked as down by the monitor.
The issue was because I created a pool with 4 members, 2 same IP but different service port, cause we have 2 versions who using different socket
And I have 2 Virtual Services different (based on version) with an iRule different for each in order to select specific node with the target port. The irule was like this :
when CLIENT_ACCEPTED {
set xxx_node1 "13.x.x.183"
set xxx_node2 "40.x.x.221"
set xxx_ppol "pool_vm_xxx_prod"
set xxx_port yyyy
if { ([LB::status pool $xxx_ppol member $xxx_node1 $xxx_port] eq "up") and ([LB::status pool $xxx_ppol member $xxx_node2 $xxx_port] eq "up") }
{
node $xxx_node1 $xxx_port
node $xxx_node2 $xxx_port
}
elseif { ([LB::status pool $xxx_ppol member $xxx_node1 $xxx_port] eq "up") and ([LB::status pool $xxx_ppol member $xxx_node2 $xxx_port] eq "down") }
{
node $xxx_node1 $xxx_port
}
elseif { ([LB::status pool $xxx_ppol member $xxx_node1 $xxx_port] eq "down") and ([LB::status pool $xxx_ppol member $xxx_node2 $xxx_port] eq "up") }
{
node $xxx_node2 $xxx_port
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else
{
log "Error : Pool $xxx_ppol is down"
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}
Finally, I just recreate 2 new pool specific to each version and on my 2 VS I associate this new pool based on target version and deleted the associated iRule.
And now, my traffic is correctly load balanced 😉
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Hi all,
\n
We have a very simple configuration where we have multiple node in a pool for a specific TCP protocol (port 6000). In front of F5 farm we have an additionnal network device who NAT source IP, so we have only a different source port for each connection.
\n
So when we initiate connection, all traffic are redirected to a single destination and are not correctly load balanced to all node in this pool; only in single. Altought, when a specific node is down, all traffic are correctly send to the 2nd.
\n
In short terms we are unable to Load Balance correctly the traffic charge in all node.
\n
We tried to use iRule with persit to none, and numerous option, but unfortunately we have no luck to let it working.
\n
Can you drive me please on correct action to fix it, thank you\nRegards
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Hi all,
\n
We have a very simple configuration where we have multiple node in a pool for a specific TCP protocol (port 6000). In front of F5 farm we have an additionnal network device who NAT source IP, so we have only a different source port for each connection.
\n
So when we initiate connection, all traffic are redirected to a single destination and are not correctly load balanced to all node in this pool; only in single. Altought, when a specific node is down, all traffic are correctly send to the 2nd.
\n
In short terms we are unable to Load Balance correctly the traffic charge in all node.
\n
We tried to use iRule with persit to none, and numerous option, but unfortunately we have no luck to let it working.
\n
Can you drive me please on correct action to fix it, thank you\nRegards
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You need to use an application layer persistence.\nWhat protocol is used at layer 7?
You need to use an application layer persistence.\nWhat protocol is used at layer 7?
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Hi
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Thank you for your response. The protocol used is a no-known, developed by a company (based on tcp socket). So I’m not sur how to reply you about l7 on this traffic.
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But if I understand what you mean, I don’t have to use a VS with a standard type, correct ?
Thank you for your response. The protocol used is a no-known, developed by a company (based on tcp socket). So I’m not sur how to reply you about l7 on this traffic.
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But if I understand what you mean, I don’t have to use a VS with a standard type, correct ?
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Ok, basically as you already figure out, source address persistence will not work in your case.\nSo you need to look something in the upper layers.\nIf you were using HTTP for example, cookie persistence would easily fix the problem.
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Here is the list of persistence profile for 13.1.0:
If the others persistence profiles can't be used, you can collect the TCP data, and use something in the TCP payload that uniquely identifies each user, and use that for persistence with universal persistence.
Ok, basically as you already figure out, source address persistence will not work in your case.\nSo you need to look something in the upper layers.\nIf you were using HTTP for example, cookie persistence would easily fix the problem.
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Here is the list of persistence profile for 13.1.0:
If the others persistence profiles can't be used, you can collect the TCP data, and use something in the TCP payload that uniquely identifies each user, and use that for persistence with universal persistence.
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Ok, I begin t understand better with theses explanations. And It could be useful to try chech information in TCP Payload, very useful. Thanks, and I will use it but not sure for this special case.
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In fact, here we don't need to get this information about something, no need to keep persistence or affinity. It's for IOT project where devices connect to farm server and etablished a socket (and keep it open). If IOT become disconnected, he can reconnect to any node without reconnect previous one.
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So, which settings I need to set for load balance tcp connection without any affinity, persistence, etc.. Just want redirect traffic to each nodes based on TCP connection. For example, we have 10k device connected for 3 node farm, 3333 TCP connection need to be redirect to each node.
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I'm totally agree that like it's TCP socket, if a node fail then revert, all TCP socket will remain connected in other nodes in farm and only next TCP will be load balanced. We already have a plan for kill TCP socket on server UP after a node failed for equalize again.
Ok, I begin t understand better with theses explanations. And It could be useful to try chech information in TCP Payload, very useful. Thanks, and I will use it but not sure for this special case.
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In fact, here we don't need to get this information about something, no need to keep persistence or affinity. It's for IOT project where devices connect to farm server and etablished a socket (and keep it open). If IOT become disconnected, he can reconnect to any node without reconnect previous one.
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So, which settings I need to set for load balance tcp connection without any affinity, persistence, etc.. Just want redirect traffic to each nodes based on TCP connection. For example, we have 10k device connected for 3 node farm, 3333 TCP connection need to be redirect to each node.
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I'm totally agree that like it's TCP socket, if a node fail then revert, all TCP socket will remain connected in other nodes in farm and only next TCP will be load balanced. We already have a plan for kill TCP socket on server UP after a node failed for equalize again.
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Thank you again,\nAlex
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In that case, yes, you don't need persistence.
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The TCP connection will continue open until something happens.\nThat can be, the connection is closed, timeout, the server goes down, etc...
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You can change the timeout in the TCP profile, the default is 300 seconds.\nCreate a new profile based on the default TCP, and change idle timeout value.
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There is also the action on service down that you can configure in the pool settings.\nBasically, what happens to a connection that is already open and the server is marked as down by the monitor.
The TCP connection will continue open until something happens.\nThat can be, the connection is closed, timeout, the server goes down, etc...
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You can change the timeout in the TCP profile, the default is 300 seconds.\nCreate a new profile based on the default TCP, and change idle timeout value.
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There is also the action on service down that you can configure in the pool settings.\nBasically, what happens to a connection that is already open and the server is marked as down by the monitor.
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i hope your not using any persistence and pool configured with round robin ?
i hope your not using any persistence and pool configured with round robin ?
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ThxS\nrini
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Ok, I finally fix it ^^
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The issue was because I created a pool with 4 members, 2 same IP but different service port, cause we have 2 versions who using different socket\n
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And I have 2 Virtual Services different (based on version) with an iRule different for each in order to select specific node with the target port. The irule was like this :
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Finally, I just recreate 2 new pool specific to each version and on my 2 VS I associate this new pool based on target version and deleted the associated iRule.
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And now, my traffic is correctly load balanced 😉
The issue was because I created a pool with 4 members, 2 same IP but different service port, cause we have 2 versions who using different socket\n
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And I have 2 Virtual Services different (based on version) with an iRule different for each in order to select specific node with the target port. The irule was like this :
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Finally, I just recreate 2 new pool specific to each version and on my 2 VS I associate this new pool based on target version and deleted the associated iRule.
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And now, my traffic is correctly load balanced 😉
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Thanks to all who help me in this situation
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Have a nice day,\nRegards\nAlex
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